Another day in paradise--or--What repairing delamination entails. - Good Old RVs2024-03-29T04:57:15Zhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/forum/topics/another-day-in-paradise-or-what-repairing-delamination-entails?commentId=2093474%3AComment%3A317697&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAs long as that light is not…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2017-06-21:2093474:Comment:3179432017-06-21T20:14:47.185ZRussell E Johnsonhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/RussellJohnson
<p>As long as that light is not on the engine of a train it is a good sight. LOL</p>
<p>As long as that light is not on the engine of a train it is a good sight. LOL</p> The light at the end of the t…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2017-06-21:2093474:Comment:3178362017-06-21T13:05:27.255ZTinahttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/Tina285
<p>The light at the end of the tunnel is moving toward you. :) Good job keeping up the positive thoughts and hard work. It will pay off.</p>
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<p>The light at the end of the tunnel is moving toward you. :) Good job keeping up the positive thoughts and hard work. It will pay off.</p>
<p></p> That seems to be common place…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2017-06-21:2093474:Comment:3175282017-06-21T03:03:27.341ZLakota Wolfhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/LakotaWolf
<p>That seems to be common place on a lot of rigs,,, Stevie Wonders *side job,,A few past rigs Ive had or worked on had similar *Gaps, from poor workmanship. It was a case of TO MUCH or not enough. I have seen it 1/4 inch thick on the bottom of the window frame (like its really going to leak uphill), and chinsy paper thin at the top. Quality and Quality control has gone down the drain with assemblers not being proud of what they build,, plus the big bosses squeezing labor dollars to increase…</p>
<p>That seems to be common place on a lot of rigs,,, Stevie Wonders *side job,,A few past rigs Ive had or worked on had similar *Gaps, from poor workmanship. It was a case of TO MUCH or not enough. I have seen it 1/4 inch thick on the bottom of the window frame (like its really going to leak uphill), and chinsy paper thin at the top. Quality and Quality control has gone down the drain with assemblers not being proud of what they build,, plus the big bosses squeezing labor dollars to increase profit dollars. I was fortunate to have found a rig that had some pride built behind it,,It was probably built the day after bonuses was passed out...lol</p> Russ, I don't see much of a p…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2017-06-21:2093474:Comment:3176972017-06-21T02:57:03.224ZRich Thomashttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/RichThomas
<p>Russ, I don't see much of a problem with the plan to drive in the staples. Most hard wood manufactures recommend an under-lay or vapor barrier. Lowe's sells a couple different kinds. a red paper like product and some type of closed cell foam. I would think either of those would absorb the ridges caused by the driven in staples and you would never know they was there. </p>
<p>Russ, I don't see much of a problem with the plan to drive in the staples. Most hard wood manufactures recommend an under-lay or vapor barrier. Lowe's sells a couple different kinds. a red paper like product and some type of closed cell foam. I would think either of those would absorb the ridges caused by the driven in staples and you would never know they was there. </p> Modern RV construction techni…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2017-06-21:2093474:Comment:3175252017-06-21T01:55:27.340ZM K Wilkiehttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/MKWilkie
Modern RV construction techniques. This from someone who owns a 2008 Cruiser...<br />
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Default window seals<br />
Noticed a small water leak I suspected was coming from the emergency exit window. When I removed the Window I was surprised to see the putty tape that was used to seal the window was not even making contact with the Wall of the trailer in a lot of spots. It looked like Stevie Wonder put the tape on the window frame. totally sloppy work…
Modern RV construction techniques. This from someone who owns a 2008 Cruiser...<br />
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Join Date: Sep 2016<br />
Location: Los Angeles. CA<br />
Posts: 51<br />
Default window seals<br />
Noticed a small water leak I suspected was coming from the emergency exit window. When I removed the Window I was surprised to see the putty tape that was used to seal the window was not even making contact with the Wall of the trailer in a lot of spots. It looked like Stevie Wonder put the tape on the window frame. totally sloppy work by the manufacture. The only thing keeping the water out was a super thin bead of caulk on the outside frame of the window. The caulking was getting weathered and pulled way from the frame in spots. I ended removing the front window and other side window. Same thing putty tape looked brand new not even touching parts of the wall. Again the only thing keeping the water out was the thin caulking..better check the caulking on your windows.." On butyl tape sealing? My sho…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2017-06-20:2093474:Comment:3175212017-06-20T18:02:16.463ZLakota Wolfhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/LakotaWolf
<p>On butyl tape sealing? My short 5th wheel still has original 33 year old butyl tape around the windows and NO LEAKS.</p>
<p>I do believe its all how it was originally installed and if it was done correctly. Then throw in the factor of movement and flexing of the window, As I can see more movement in a larger window then a smaller one.</p>
<p>The door frame DID (or seemed to) need replacing 2 years ago,I had found a crack in the seal and assumed it was a leak waiting to happen,, So instead of…</p>
<p>On butyl tape sealing? My short 5th wheel still has original 33 year old butyl tape around the windows and NO LEAKS.</p>
<p>I do believe its all how it was originally installed and if it was done correctly. Then throw in the factor of movement and flexing of the window, As I can see more movement in a larger window then a smaller one.</p>
<p>The door frame DID (or seemed to) need replacing 2 years ago,I had found a crack in the seal and assumed it was a leak waiting to happen,, So instead of waiting for it to appear, I resealed the front door frame, (BTW, I dont think it was going to leak, that seal was firm all the way around and that crack was only visable on the outside edge of the butyl and not all the way through). But hey,, 3 hours of work to replace and seal,,*just in case was better then ignoring it only to discover it to be a huge problem later.</p>
<p>(plus was an excellent opportunity to check the door for any unseen damage and check the door opening in the RV for unseen other sneaky leaks that could have occured). I would honestly think,, If there is ANY sign of water damage,, even minimal BELOW any window, then there is the possiblity that you have fracture cracks in the original butyl seal and its not that big a project to replace the seal,, Butyl tape in large rolls are reasonable on price and resealing a window, give you one less *leak waiting to happen problem to deal with later. AND,,, as we seasoned RV'ers know,, Mother nature wins in the long run with the beating sun, freezing rain, snow and just all around weather, and we just have to keep pace to stay ahead. ok, nuff of my 14 cents,,,</p>
<p>Thats good news you found good adhesion with the fiberglass body,, That much LESS labor involved in a tear out. Just pace yourself while the temps climb up during the day,, drink plenty of liquids,, and great idea having the a/c on to make the job more tolerable... Good job Russ..</p>