ELEC ON 1970 D22 - Good Old RVs2024-03-29T08:10:01Zhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/forum/topics/elec-on-1970-d22?commentId=2093474%3AComment%3A176872&feed=yes&xn_auth=no Ellen, yes your youngest so…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2014-05-24:2093474:Comment:2189602014-05-24T12:01:42.873ZJohn "T" Nordhoffhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/JohnT
<p> Ellen, yes your youngest son is correct. If you plug your typical 30 amp shore power cord into the RV parks outlet that is 120 VAC same as in your residential home that's used for typical 120 VAC lighting, tools and appliances. However, when there is no shore power available like if you're dry camping out in the boonies but still want occasional 120 VAC, it can be obtained using an Inverter that takes the 12 VDC battery power and changes it over to 120 VAC or else a Generator which…</p>
<p> Ellen, yes your youngest son is correct. If you plug your typical 30 amp shore power cord into the RV parks outlet that is 120 VAC same as in your residential home that's used for typical 120 VAC lighting, tools and appliances. However, when there is no shore power available like if you're dry camping out in the boonies but still want occasional 120 VAC, it can be obtained using an Inverter that takes the 12 VDC battery power and changes it over to 120 VAC or else a Generator which produces 120 VAC.</p>
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<p> John T Retired Electrical Engineer</p> My Winnabago Brave is a 1979…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2014-05-24:2093474:Comment:2188562014-05-24T08:48:25.858ZEllen Eastonhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/EllenEaston
<p>My Winnabago Brave is a 1979 and the power I have from the post outside is 110. I use it for everything a person uses 110 for. My youngest son is and electrician and he says this is fine, so that's what I use. I plug in everything into the plugins and they work. I use power strips, though, that will trip if anything goes wrong.</p>
<p>My Winnabago Brave is a 1979 and the power I have from the post outside is 110. I use it for everything a person uses 110 for. My youngest son is and electrician and he says this is fine, so that's what I use. I plug in everything into the plugins and they work. I use power strips, though, that will trip if anything goes wrong.</p> Mitchell.
Talk to a small eng…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-11-19:2093474:Comment:1867072013-11-19T07:56:13.202ZJoe and April Skidmorehttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/JoeandAprilSkidmore
<p>Mitchell.</p>
<p>Talk to a small engine repair shop about repairing the gen set. It maybe cheaper to rebuild than replace. If you do buy a replacement unit that is used......bring someone with you that knows about engines. Just don't want to see you get screwed with someone junk. </p>
<p>Mitchell.</p>
<p>Talk to a small engine repair shop about repairing the gen set. It maybe cheaper to rebuild than replace. If you do buy a replacement unit that is used......bring someone with you that knows about engines. Just don't want to see you get screwed with someone junk. </p> "I DO HAVE A GENERATOR BUT TE…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-08-24:2093474:Comment:1768722013-08-24T18:32:03.431ZTim Daileyhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/TimDailey
<p>"<span>I DO HAVE A GENERATOR BUT TE MOTOR HAS A HOLE IN THE PISTON AND CANN'T FIND ANY INFO ON IT."</span></p>
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<p><span>If its an Onan, you can go to your nearest Cummins Dealer with the model number of the engine. You'll be surprised at what is still available, but you might pay a premium. Dad and I just ordered pistons, rings and rods for an older Onan, parts came in the next day. The data stamp on the pistons were 2006, so we know they were at least still making some older…</span></p>
<p>"<span>I DO HAVE A GENERATOR BUT TE MOTOR HAS A HOLE IN THE PISTON AND CANN'T FIND ANY INFO ON IT."</span></p>
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<p><span>If its an Onan, you can go to your nearest Cummins Dealer with the model number of the engine. You'll be surprised at what is still available, but you might pay a premium. Dad and I just ordered pistons, rings and rods for an older Onan, parts came in the next day. The data stamp on the pistons were 2006, so we know they were at least still making some older parts not too long ago.</span></p> If the onboard outlet/recept…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-08-23:2093474:Comment:1766562013-08-23T13:03:48.232ZJohn "T" Nordhoffhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/JohnT
<p> If the onboard outlet/receptacle is a 4 prong (2 Hots, Neutral, Ground) that could be???? a generator that was used on a bigger Class A RV that had TWO ROOFTOP AIR CONDITIONERS. Modern large Class A's use a 4 prong (3 pole 4 wire grounding) 120/240 volt 50 amp power cord. One leg of 120 powered one AC the other 120 leg powered the other roof AC. It can still work for your needs but it sounds like you better get someone who knows this stuff, although its still not all that complicated or…</p>
<p> If the onboard outlet/receptacle is a 4 prong (2 Hots, Neutral, Ground) that could be???? a generator that was used on a bigger Class A RV that had TWO ROOFTOP AIR CONDITIONERS. Modern large Class A's use a 4 prong (3 pole 4 wire grounding) 120/240 volt 50 amp power cord. One leg of 120 powered one AC the other 120 leg powered the other roof AC. It can still work for your needs but it sounds like you better get someone who knows this stuff, although its still not all that complicated or expensive to wire it up.</p>
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<p> Yep the big red battery cable looking wire is probably for the + of the starting battery while the black Neg often wires to the case/frame.</p>
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<p> John T</p> JOHN
THERE IS NO 120 OR 2…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-08-23:2093474:Comment:1766552013-08-23T12:27:43.068ZMitchell D FAIRhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/MitchellDFAIR
<p>JOHN</p>
<p> THERE IS NO 120 OR 240 PLUG INS ON THIS ONE LIKE THE OLD ONE. ALL IN HAS IS A PLG IN THAT IS SQURE AND LOOKS TO HOLD 4 WIRES. OTHER THAN THERE IS A HEAVY RED WIRE ALMOST A CABLE. IAM WOULD GUESS THAT IS FOER BATTERY. WILL TRY TO FIND A MANUEL OR SOMEBODY CLOST TO LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR IDEAS AND OPION ALL THESE AND THEY READY DO HELP.</p>
<p> THANKS MITCH</p>
<p>JOHN</p>
<p> THERE IS NO 120 OR 240 PLUG INS ON THIS ONE LIKE THE OLD ONE. ALL IN HAS IS A PLG IN THAT IS SQURE AND LOOKS TO HOLD 4 WIRES. OTHER THAN THERE IS A HEAVY RED WIRE ALMOST A CABLE. IAM WOULD GUESS THAT IS FOER BATTERY. WILL TRY TO FIND A MANUEL OR SOMEBODY CLOST TO LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR IDEAS AND OPION ALL THESE AND THEY READY DO HELP.</p>
<p> THANKS MITCH</p> I wouldnt say its "to much"…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-08-23:2093474:Comment:1767502013-08-23T12:06:51.763ZJohn "T" Nordhoffhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/JohnT
<p> I wouldnt say its "to much" to answer your question, if thats an older Winnebago Class A it wouldnt be too heavy, its more a question if theres room to mount it somewhere like in an old generator compartment???? If you can hang/mount/fit it somewhere so its vented and and run the exhaust pipe out a couple inches past the side botton of the RV IT CAN WORK.</p>
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<p> If you can find a manual they always well describe mounting requirements and clearances etc. Its NOT rocket science or…</p>
<p> I wouldnt say its "to much" to answer your question, if thats an older Winnebago Class A it wouldnt be too heavy, its more a question if theres room to mount it somewhere like in an old generator compartment???? If you can hang/mount/fit it somewhere so its vented and and run the exhaust pipe out a couple inches past the side botton of the RV IT CAN WORK.</p>
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<p> If you can find a manual they always well describe mounting requirements and clearances etc. Its NOT rocket science or too critical, they need air circulation and often vent the cooling air out the bottom somewhere and are mounted on big rubber cushion bumpers.</p>
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<p> Wiring is the EASY PART. Its easy to wire a standard RV 30 amp 120 volt receptacle on the gennys output so your RV's power cord with its (Im assuming???) plug fits. When driving or dry camping the RV cord is plugged into the gennys output receptacle but if at an RV park its plugged instead to teh RV parks outlet. This assumes the genny is a 120 volt, it can still work if the genny is a 120/240 however.</p>
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<p> They usually use a low pressure 12 VDC electric fuel pump, thats easy to wire and plumb, but the trick is to use the gennys On/Off circuitry that powers the fuel pump ONLY when the genny is being operated and they usually get gas out of the main tank but with its own tube that doesnt go all the way to the tanks bottom so the genny cant run you completely out of gas. If it already had some sort of a genny that seperate genny gas line would already be there and they often had a generator compartment back in one rear corner.</p>
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<p> This is something I could do if there (worked on old RV's most of my life) but if youre inexperienced it can be quite a chore..... Theres not much more I can do over the internet.</p>
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<p> NOTE exhaust piping and venting is fairly critical, you dont want to wake up dead due to carbon monoxide poison. The rest of it isnt as critical as long as theres air and heat venting etc and proper electric fuel pump circuitry.</p>
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<p> John T Long retired electrical engineer </p> JOHN T,
I HAVE JU…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-08-23:2093474:Comment:1764102013-08-23T11:42:06.456ZMitchell D FAIRhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/MitchellDFAIR
<p>JOHN T,</p>
<p> I HAVE JUST PICKUP A ONAN GENSET. MODEL IS A 5.0 AJ FROM A CLASS A MOTORHOME. IT HAS A RPM OF 3600. WILL THIS BE TO MUCH FOR MY D22? HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO WIRE IT IN THE D22? IAM GUESSING THAT IT WOULD BE TO BIG AND A LOT OF WORK TO REWIRE IT. IF NOTHING ELSE I HAVE SOMETHING FOR TRADING. I GOT IT FROM MY DAUGHTER BOY FREIND WHO OWNS A WRECKING YARD. HE SAID IT MAY NEED A FUEL PUMP. GOT IT CHEAP ENOUGH SO HAVE ROOM TO WORK WITH</p>
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<p>JOHN T,</p>
<p> I HAVE JUST PICKUP A ONAN GENSET. MODEL IS A 5.0 AJ FROM A CLASS A MOTORHOME. IT HAS A RPM OF 3600. WILL THIS BE TO MUCH FOR MY D22? HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO WIRE IT IN THE D22? IAM GUESSING THAT IT WOULD BE TO BIG AND A LOT OF WORK TO REWIRE IT. IF NOTHING ELSE I HAVE SOMETHING FOR TRADING. I GOT IT FROM MY DAUGHTER BOY FREIND WHO OWNS A WRECKING YARD. HE SAID IT MAY NEED A FUEL PUMP. GOT IT CHEAP ENOUGH SO HAVE ROOM TO WORK WITH</p>
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<p> </p> I may have jumped the gun a…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-07-19:2093474:Comment:1682192013-07-19T15:27:51.768ZJohn "T" Nordhoffhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/JohnT
<p> I may have jumped the gun a bit on that generator question. Im always thinking/assumingf the older Onan units while some RV's of that vintage were powered by seperate Kohler or other make gas engines WHICH CAN BE MORE EASILY AND CHEAPLY REBUILT as they stand alone and seperate NOT part of a whole Onan type of unit...You have to talk to someone knowledgeable who is standing there looking at the unit which we cant do over the net</p>
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<p> Anytime I'm looking for a Manual, I BING or…</p>
<p> I may have jumped the gun a bit on that generator question. Im always thinking/assumingf the older Onan units while some RV's of that vintage were powered by seperate Kohler or other make gas engines WHICH CAN BE MORE EASILY AND CHEAPLY REBUILT as they stand alone and seperate NOT part of a whole Onan type of unit...You have to talk to someone knowledgeable who is standing there looking at the unit which we cant do over the net</p>
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<p> Anytime I'm looking for a Manual, I BING or GOOGLE something like "Download Manual Onan Emerald 4000" or something like that to fit the genny I have.......</p>
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<p> PS back in the day I owned several of those vintage Winnebagos and loved them all. Pressurized galvanized water tank systems and all. Many had Dodge 413 truck Engines and the 727 Torqueflyte Trannys which were almost bulletproof. They were "Good Old RV's"</p>
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<p> John T</p> John,
Thank you so muc…tag:goodoldrvs.ning.com,2013-07-19:2093474:Comment:1684822013-07-19T14:16:11.472ZMitchell D FAIRhttps://goodoldrvs.ning.com/profile/MitchellDFAIR
<p>John,</p>
<p> Thank you so much. This has realy been a great help and gives me the answers and a plce to start. The brackers will be the first thing to replace and belive that will be the answer to the biggest share of the problem.</p>
<p> as for the generator I will look for a used one to replace it with on the sites you sujested. Will also check to see if there is a place around here to possible rebuild the gas motor on it.</p>
<p> would you know where I maybe able to find a…</p>
<p>John,</p>
<p> Thank you so much. This has realy been a great help and gives me the answers and a plce to start. The brackers will be the first thing to replace and belive that will be the answer to the biggest share of the problem.</p>
<p> as for the generator I will look for a used one to replace it with on the sites you sujested. Will also check to see if there is a place around here to possible rebuild the gas motor on it.</p>
<p> would you know where I maybe able to find a owners manual or a site that I may down load it? This would be a great help to. That may put a lot of light on the subject too.</p>
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<p>thanks mitch</p>