A place to share information about and to get help with your Tiffin Allegro and its P-30 Chevy chassis. I'm amazed at the seemingly infinite combinations of floor plans throughout the years.
So I came across my Allegro by mistake. It was for sale on Craigslist after having been pretty much abandoned for quite some time. Before I even responded to the ad I did some research on these Tiffin motorhomes. Very solid build quality and an all aluminum frame. It was not running at the time, but I made the deal and had it towed to my house. Even after 32 years, the quality of the construction of these things shows through. I've spent A LOT of time under, inside and on top of this thing. Looking forward to learning and possibly helping other Allegro owners in this group. We don't get out as much as we'd like but when we do it's always a great time. Next trip will be NASCAR at the Pocono Raceway.
So like Jim I to came across my 1986 Allegro by mistake on Craigslist. So far I've been in, under ,over, and some places I'd like to forget. My latest project is a 4l80e transmission. In August we're going to cape cod one way or the other for a week of camping and fun.
I found Gone on ebay after having found a 1987 Chieftan 34 that I refinanced my home to purchase but the owner would not drop price after inspection failed miserably (tires, brakes, elect etc stlil wanted $10k for it ouchy. Gone ran like a top except for the warped carb. Have loved her since.. dropped the gas tank with the help of Wonder Brad in NJ Saturday and replaced frayed return line and all other things rubber attached to ports on the tank while at it.. can't wait to go back up and get her. campin' time!!!
Philip - let us know how you like your 4L80E. A 4th (or 5th or 6th) gear has always been a dream of mine. The 454 is really taching out at highway speeds with the TH400.
G&M auto Edgewater park NJ Brad is the proud owner of a 1972 Indian. He doesn't have the facilities to work on big stuff for the most part but did this for me. He is an awesome mechanic and friend. We dropped the gas tank and replaced all rubber lines the return line had cracked.
I will second Brads ability, he even managed to get a line on that "someone" did not get tight and it came off. This was realized after the tank was in. good thing Brad has long arms and strong fingers. I met Tina there for the first time and it was her that told me about this site. Glad she did.
Jim, Brad and I are meeting up at Trap Pond in DE to camp weekend of June 4/5 with a bunch of other friends and family.. would be a 4 hr haul for you as its about 2 for Brad. the more the merrier. And Rick.. yea yea...and thankful for Brads long fingers! LOL... it was as tight as I could get it when I put it on guessing the manuevers of the tank to shimmy it back into place moved it enough.. ah well.
Philip - do you mean around the frame itself? If so it appears to be that sticky gray stuff (my dad calls it "dum dum"). I used it to repair the range hood vent and a couple of other protrusions through the skin on my Allegro. It comes in a roll. If your windows are leaking it may not be from the frames. Sometimes the drains get clogged.
As far as SEALING your windows,,,,, check first where its actually leaking. Its NOT always around the seal,sometimes it is,, But as Jim mentioned, check the *drain track. If its a window that cranks out or slides open, check the felt seal where the 2 pieces of glass meet. Track drains get clogged easily with everyday dust and crud blowing in the wind.
If the original seal of the window is whats leaking, NEVER,EVER,EVER, use silicone, unless you want to peel it off a couple months later and reseal it again. Use Butyl tape, it comes in grey and black rolls,, Looks like cauking on a tape roll.
Its not that hard to work with and removing a window and scraping off the old butyl tape off and applying new butyl is an afternoon job. Usually takes a couple hours to remove,,reseal and re-install the window, then move on to the next one.
A *Note,,, with the window out, You can check the surrounding wood frame for any water damage and takle that problem while the window is out.
Tiffin still has parts for our old gals in stock in many cases... I've had good luck giving their parts dept a call. but yes check those drain tabs...clogs happen. I have yet to find the leak in the front windshield however... off center left and right sides. I've had the gasket pulled and reset with the hot sealant, silicone, caulk, and behind each marker light etc... I have not had the glass pulled as that is cost prohibitive and not many places will touch it anyway.
Thanks everyone for the advice. I got the right stuff now. I have to do around the Windows and the refrigerator access door because I took them off for replacement and to get new frig in.
How about some pics of your Allegros? I threw up a random pic of mine for the group photo but it's not fabulous. There are far more photogenic Allegros out there. Maybe post up some pics and we can vote on the best one to represent the group?
Hi Philip, good to hear about a running Allegro driving in Ohio. It will not be to long before Tina and Pat Paul are driving their motor home in Ohio to attend the 2016 Jimco Jamboree. It's always nice to see a white & green Allegro parked here at the Jam.
New Bumper. Ok sorry everyone for the delay but here are the latest up dates. We made a very successful trip to Cape Cod from Ohio. the new transmission performed fantastically. Here are some pics.
Looking good Phil! I love what you did with the captain's chairs. And your paper towels are getting away! Ohio to Cape Cod is more of an adventure than I think I'd like to take in mine but I've driven it a couple thousand miles in 200-mile increments, so why wouldn't it go that distance in a shorter period of time? Some day I'll take it on a legitimate road trip but for now I keep it fairly local. It's great to see you enjoying yours so much.
My brother got married this weekend and I brought the 'ol girl over to my dad's house for overflow accommodations. Dad got his Vettes out for fun. That's my dad in the driver's seat of the '67 and my uncle on the passenger side.
beautiful vette,s glad to see you and family are enjoying the motorhome, we towed home a 72 winny brave this weekend, don't know if it is too far gone or not.
Jimco_W001
Hi Jim Stoltz, thanks for starting the Allegro P-30 Group.
There are so many of these RV's out in the world.Many being used right here by other members!
Mar 17, 2016
Jim Stoltz
So I came across my Allegro by mistake. It was for sale on Craigslist after having been pretty much abandoned for quite some time. Before I even responded to the ad I did some research on these Tiffin motorhomes. Very solid build quality and an all aluminum frame. It was not running at the time, but I made the deal and had it towed to my house. Even after 32 years, the quality of the construction of these things shows through. I've spent A LOT of time under, inside and on top of this thing. Looking forward to learning and possibly helping other Allegro owners in this group. We don't get out as much as we'd like but when we do it's always a great time. Next trip will be NASCAR at the Pocono Raceway.
Mar 21, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Mar 27, 2016
Cristina Gouin
I found Gone on ebay after having found a 1987 Chieftan 34 that I refinanced my home to purchase but the owner would not drop price after inspection failed miserably (tires, brakes, elect etc stlil wanted $10k for it ouchy. Gone ran like a top except for the warped carb. Have loved her since.. dropped the gas tank with the help of Wonder Brad in NJ Saturday and replaced frayed return line and all other things rubber attached to ports on the tank while at it.. can't wait to go back up and get her. campin' time!!!
Mar 28, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Philip - let us know how you like your 4L80E. A 4th (or 5th or 6th) gear has always been a dream of mine. The 454 is really taching out at highway speeds with the TH400.
Mar 28, 2016
Cristina Gouin
4th gear... ahhhh the engine would be so much happier.. just saying!
Mar 28, 2016
Cristina Gouin
I'm getting Gone tomorrow from NJ back home!!!!!!!! yea!!!!!!
Apr 13, 2016
Jimco_W001
Good for you Tina. What did Brad repair on your motor home?
Apr 13, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Apr 13, 2016
Cristina Gouin
G&M auto Edgewater park NJ Brad is the proud owner of a 1972 Indian. He doesn't have the facilities to work on big stuff for the most part but did this for me. He is an awesome mechanic and friend. We dropped the gas tank and replaced all rubber lines the return line had cracked.
Apr 13, 2016
Rick Faunce
I will second Brads ability, he even managed to get a line on that "someone" did not get tight and it came off. This was realized after the tank was in. good thing Brad has long arms and strong fingers. I met Tina there for the first time and it was her that told me about this site. Glad she did.
Apr 13, 2016
Jimco_W001
TJ likes to call him Wonder Brad! He's a great tech who knows what he's doing. G&M auto Edgewater park NJ
Apr 13, 2016
Jim Stoltz
I was hoping he was closer so I could get a glimpse of Gone in person. But Edgewater Park is almost 2 hours from me. I'm way up in Northern NJ.
Apr 13, 2016
Cristina Gouin
Jim, Brad and I are meeting up at Trap Pond in DE to camp weekend of June 4/5 with a bunch of other friends and family.. would be a 4 hr haul for you as its about 2 for Brad. the more the merrier. And Rick.. yea yea...and thankful for Brads long fingers! LOL... it was as tight as I could get it when I put it on guessing the manuevers of the tank to shimmy it back into place moved it enough.. ah well.
Apr 14, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Apr 22, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Apr 23, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Awesome! Can't wait for pics and/or video...
Apr 24, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
May 5, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Philip - do you mean around the frame itself? If so it appears to be that sticky gray stuff (my dad calls it "dum dum"). I used it to repair the range hood vent and a couple of other protrusions through the skin on my Allegro. It comes in a roll. If your windows are leaking it may not be from the frames. Sometimes the drains get clogged.
May 5, 2016
Lakota Wolf
As far as SEALING your windows,,,,, check first where its actually leaking. Its NOT always around the seal,sometimes it is,, But as Jim mentioned, check the *drain track. If its a window that cranks out or slides open, check the felt seal where the 2 pieces of glass meet. Track drains get clogged easily with everyday dust and crud blowing in the wind.
If the original seal of the window is whats leaking, NEVER,EVER,EVER, use silicone, unless you want to peel it off a couple months later and reseal it again. Use Butyl tape, it comes in grey and black rolls,, Looks like cauking on a tape roll.
Its not that hard to work with and removing a window and scraping off the old butyl tape off and applying new butyl is an afternoon job. Usually takes a couple hours to remove,,reseal and re-install the window, then move on to the next one.
A *Note,,, with the window out, You can check the surrounding wood frame for any water damage and takle that problem while the window is out.
May 6, 2016
Cristina Gouin
Tiffin still has parts for our old gals in stock in many cases... I've had good luck giving their parts dept a call. but yes check those drain tabs...clogs happen. I have yet to find the leak in the front windshield however... off center left and right sides. I've had the gasket pulled and reset with the hot sealant, silicone, caulk, and behind each marker light etc... I have not had the glass pulled as that is cost prohibitive and not many places will touch it anyway.
May 6, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
May 6, 2016
Jim Stoltz
How about some pics of your Allegros? I threw up a random pic of mine for the group photo but it's not fabulous. There are far more photogenic Allegros out there. Maybe post up some pics and we can vote on the best one to represent the group?
May 19, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
May 22, 2016
Jimco_W001
Hi Philip, good to hear about a running Allegro driving in Ohio. It will not be to long before Tina and Pat Paul are driving their motor home in Ohio to attend the 2016 Jimco Jamboree. It's always nice to see a white & green Allegro parked here at the Jam.
May 22, 2016
Steven Rose
Hay all another Allegro here 1985 .Newbie ,just started the adventure a few month back.Here tisee what I can Learn .
Jun 20, 2016
Cristina Gouin
Welcome!!!
Jun 21, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Looking good Phil! I love what you did with the captain's chairs. And your paper towels are getting away! Ohio to Cape Cod is more of an adventure than I think I'd like to take in mine but I've driven it a couple thousand miles in 200-mile increments, so why wouldn't it go that distance in a shorter period of time? Some day I'll take it on a legitimate road trip but for now I keep it fairly local. It's great to see you enjoying yours so much.
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Philip Wolsonovich
Aug 18, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Yep mine does the same thing traveling with the galley window open. Paper towel roll empties itself.
Your floors look great. Mine a bit older and darker inside so I went with "hand scraped oak" or something like that.
Aug 18, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Aug 28, 2016
WILLARD STOTLER
beautiful vette,s glad to see you and family are enjoying the motorhome, we towed home a 72 winny brave this weekend, don't know if it is too far gone or not.
Aug 28, 2016
Jim Stoltz
Aug 29, 2016